Anea of Holy Discipline poses the question:
“Are you ashamed that you play WoW?”
I was going to chime in with my 2 cents in her comment section, then decided it was great fuel for a post. Rather than crit her comments with a wall o' text, I'll just answer her here!
Then I remembered something sitting in my drafts that fits well with this topic, so let's combine the two!
(Taboo) Table Talk
As I've probably mentioned before, I don't have anymore coworkers that play WoW, and I don't have many IRL friends that do. Sideshow works with several people that play or used to play. My parents now play.
But I find plenty of opportunities to talk about it outside the game anyway.
Sure, Sideshow and I often talk about gaming with each other. We do this at home, at the store, and at restaurants. Sometimes I wonder what others are thinking, but usually I just don't worry about it. I figure they'll either think I'm geeky-cool, justadork, or foreign (y'know, not speaking a “language” they comprehend).
About the only time I've been a bit uncomfortable talking about WoW while out to eat (and Sideshow totally knows the dinner I'm referring to…) was when we were out with a friend of Sideshow's from work. He tends to talk rather loudly, which can be tolerated most of the time. And we usually would all sit and talk about the game, raiding, gear, arena, PvP, patch changes, etc. We'd do this while waiting to order, waiting for our food, and throughout dinner.
I usually do stop my conversation when a waitress approaches, but that's something I do no matter what the subject is.
Well, this one particular evening, the restaurant was quite busy. Instead of having a booth or table a bit off to the side, we're kinda smack dab in the middle. And surrounded. At the time, our friend was leveling a warlock. So, him and I were discussing warlockery stuff. He then shared his spell rotation with me.
Very loudly.
While waving his arms and talking with his hands.
I can't imagine what the nearby people thought about hearing “Lifetap! Lifetap! Shadowbolt!” etc.
And we're talking, LOUD. Like, it would have been on the embarrassing side even if it wasn't about gaming.
On the flip, a few times Sideshow and I have overheard others talking about WoW while out to dinner.
Geek Encounters
I probably show my affinity for the game more than I actually say it to others. Despite a disappointing lack of gamers where I work, I do have the Lich King on my work computer's wallpaper. (Previously it was a Blood Elf.) I used to have a co-worker that played and that was incredibly fun (even though we were both a bit shy about sharing it initially.) At that time I was shier about admitting it in public, but I was also a newer player… and actively RPing. (Double taboo!)
I do have a few coworkers that do read my story, even though they do not play WoW. (That's kinda cool, you have to admit.)
But the biggest way that I subtley tell the world that I play World of Warcraft is merely a little plastic rectangle.
The WoW credit card.
This is a great way of “outing” other players. People that clearly have no clue what it is say silly things like “Did you get this from your bank?” “Ooh, that's colorful!” or look at it like I just handed them the Ace of Spades.
Here are a few examples of the card leading to small talk:
- I went to get an oil change at a Fast Track. I hand over my WoW card to pay. The guy (who is also the owner/manager of that one…I think…) looks at it and asks if I play. I say yes. He asks what level. I say 70 (TBC era). I ask him if he plays. He says he does a little, but prefers StarCraft and Diablo.
- Sideshow and I are at Target. We're buying a console game. We check out in the electronics department. The guys there are having a discussion about Fable 2. (I can't remember what game I was buying that day…) I swipe my card through the reader, but the cashier catches a glimpse of it. He smiles, nods, and whispers, “That's cool.”
- A few weeks ago (maybe a month?) we go to Quiznos. I hand over the card, the girl's eyes light up. She says she has the same card. She asks what server I'm on. Then I ask about her. She tells me she plays a priest and is in a top raiding guild Horde-side of her server. Unfortunately, I think my blank look of non-recognition gave her the wrong idea…. it was the fact that she said her guild name like I'd know it. The damage was already done though, because she said something along the lines of “I guess if you're not on the server you wouldn't know… but we're top <some number here>.” I nod politely and then our transaction is done.
Now, while it was totally cool to encounter her, I'd rather have a more … I dunno… non-epeen discussion so quickly. Or, at least have said where they were in progression, rather than hoping I'd be familiar with the guild's name. I'm sure I'll have another opportunity to WoW-chat with her again and at least next time we already know that the other plays. And she's not the “enemy” so, I think we're cool.
This may sound all well and good and dandy… but sometimes I get negative reactions to the card.
Strange looks from the card to me and back to the card… a raised eyebrow… eye rolling…
I've even heard some “So & so that I know plays and never hangs out with us anymore” or “Aren't you addicted?” And other ridiculous stuff. Might as well say “Aren't you already fat enough?” as I buy cookies and ice cream from you. I mean, no need to be rude. Learn some manners before I wtfpwnurface.
So, Anea, I just gave you my long answer above. The short answer is: No, I'm not ashamed!
I love the Jinx T-shirts for Dalaran University, Teldrassil Dance Team and all the team shirts. I like the idea that to a non-WoWer it is just a printed T-shirt – but a fellow gamer will recognise it. Makes me feel a bit subtle (for a change… 😉 ).
I am so envious that you have a WoW visa card – they are not available in the UK (as far as I can tell).
I am not ashamed of who I am. I am a geek and a girl. Not saying it won’t change anything. I have a WoW Credit Card and get many of the same reactions. I also talk about WoW when I’m out with friends. If someone thinks it’s weird then I’ll just remember how weird some other conversations I’ve overheard are. 🙂 It’s a great topic starter.
Be honest with others and yourself and just be who you are. 😀
Ha, that reaction from the guy in the electronics department was cute. The girl at Quizno’s was pretty cocky – I mean really.
I don’t have a WoW credit card, but I’ll tell you that I’ve been tempted – and you’re right, what a great way to “out” WoW players! Even more fun to make conjectures about what/where they play based on the card design.
One thing that I did notice when talking to other WoW players that know WoW players I’m friends with… If they’re Horde, once they find out I’m Alliance, I get that disappointed “Oh…” and a superior look.
What’s up with that? 😛
As someone who works in Retail, though I’d never employ such a strategy to polite customers, the idea of making cruel comments to people based on their purchases amuses me.
Have I ever mentioned that I hate customers? 😛
Anyway, back on topic… The stopping conversation in the restaurant bit is kind of what I do if me and my friend who plays are talking about it – anywhere. I almost squirm if she decides to talk about it loudly on the train. I suppose, in a way, I am kind of ashamed… but that’s more because MMO’s just aren’t “accepted” in the way that TV – TV! The least social thing EVER! – is.
@Tufva – I’ve actually been meaning to get some WoW shirts. I have a couple now… 2 BRK ones from the Children’s Week Charity Auction through the Hunting Lodge. I’m sorry the card isn’t available to you 🙁 I like it, not only because it has an elf on it, but because of the points I earn towards free months! (And, no, I don’t receive anything for these endorsements) 🙂
@Arcania – Amen! 😀 And it’s true enough that others talk about some weird stuff in public. That’s one bad thing about cell phones. There are some things that I just don’t need to ever overhear!
@Anea – Aww, cuz Horde rules! But seriously, I think when we find each other IRL, it shouldn’t matter the faction… unless we’re LARPing, that is. 😉 I totally think you should get a card. They do need to expand the designs to choose from though, but I love it anyway. I mean, how different is it than a gramma with kittens on her checks? You don’t see people scoffing at that when they are ringin’ ya up!
@Faulsey – Do you hate customers? I can’t quite tell… 😛 I used to work retail and yeah, that’s pretty poor customer service to be rude like that. (And I tend to be a polite, nice, easy going customer. There are rare occasions where I’m that dreaded one we hate, but it’s usually for a good reason – honest!) I will never quite understand why TV is considered socially acceptable while gaming is not. At least it seems to be getting better… even if it is because of celebrities admitting to their closet geek side more. And stop squirmin’! 😉
“hey, i play wo-”
“IM AMAZING AT WOW”
I hate that. It doesn’t happen very often cos’ i tend to keep people like that out of my social network.
That sounds cool, i say it loud and proud too– My girlfriend, friends, etc hated me for playing WoW.
I was the very first domino. Now they ALL play. Its safe to say what was seen as uncool is now the highlight of their gaming lives 😉
Pride can be a very bad thing!
@Kromus – Heh, I do suppose that the one person that it’s more ok to brag to about WoW is another WoW player. Perhaps she was pent up and needed a WoW dialog release? 😉 And kudos to you for being the first domino! 😀
I think WoW is a closet game. With 11 million subscribers and Blizzard’s Blue Ocean strategy, there are a TON of casuals playing warcraft, but somehow are too ashamed to admit it.
@Krizzly – Ya know, that makes sense… what I thought might mean heading towards more mainstream, could be the opposite.. more people hiding it. “Oh goodness, I don’t want someone to think I’m one of ‘those’ geeks…”
And thank you for inspiring my contest idea… to be revealed soon!
He he, the Quiznos story made me laugh. It’s not uncommon, but seriously, I don’t get why people think we’d recognize your guild name. I barely know the top raiding guilds on my server. But then again, I don’t play the same game they do.
Great read though!
@Troutwort – Heck, it’s hard enough to keep track of your own FACTION’s top raiding guilds on your own server, let alone your whole server! (like you mentioned) 😉
Really the only way I’d recognize the guild name is if she was in Ensidia or another guild that gets lots of “press”, or at least on the same server as me. Ah well, I suppose maybe it gives a glimpse of the kind of player she might be (other than the obviousness of raiding?
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